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Post by ironfist on Jun 9, 2019 1:48:26 GMT
Post here with availability and time zone for War coordination! 15 squadmates must opt-in for War. Check here for Squad War qualifications.
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Post by shibby on Jun 9, 2019 10:04:16 GMT
I'll be in if we get enough ! Bst to e zone
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Post by badnews on Jun 10, 2019 0:23:20 GMT
I’m in. US Central time.
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Post by Dr didit on Jun 12, 2019 14:01:20 GMT
I am in central time zone US
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Post by hyperion on Jun 13, 2019 4:29:54 GMT
Like Shibby I will be in if we get enough. Canada PST
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Post by shadowagent on Jun 14, 2019 4:14:16 GMT
My weekend has cleared up after Friday, if we get enough players.
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Post by ironfist on Jun 20, 2019 1:48:50 GMT
Sorry gang, we'll try again.
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Post by shibby on Jul 6, 2019 14:31:51 GMT
It's the same half a dozen who up for war as usual . Makes me laugh the ones who ask about a war then don't answer the roll call !!! Just a thought - I know it's not ideal but set up a war without a roll call just to see what response is like . The last war we did , we did do a roll call and it was a disaster anyway so can't be much worse . What do rest of you think ?
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Post by Dr didit on Jul 6, 2019 17:04:05 GMT
I say go for war the worst that can happen is we loose but the 10 frags for special units is worth it if we win I have another base and another crew they war every week we win about 40 % of the time but the frags are great
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Post by hyperion on Jul 7, 2019 19:03:19 GMT
Ok I just checked the last active section and about 8 members in the squad are in 2 days - 18 days not active. So in regards to doing a squad war we do have around 15 members to do a “unannounced” squad war. We have been trying to do roll calls for the past few times to try to organize a squad war and for whatever reason it is not working. There are so many mitigating reasons as why this is not working like players lose interest, go on holiday what have you. Anyways I would be for a fly by the seat of your pants squad war and see what happens. In the end it is Iron’s call if Iron wants to try this or not.
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Post by shadowagent on Jul 7, 2019 22:32:30 GMT
Count me out of an unannounced squad war. We have way too many players who are not regularly donating and actively ignore requests to which they are fully capable of donating. In a squad war I invest crystals that I pay real money for to get attacks and donations done in a timely manner while coordinating with squad mates to support the effort. Including our brand new player (as of today, who has not yet donated or proven they will follow the rules), we have 12/20 players who have logged in and played within a 24 hour period.
It’s not worth the cost (to me) when players don’t show up, don’t communicate and just want to get the high-value crates off the work of a few. I’d rather not do squad war than resent my fellow squad mates. It’s entirely possible that the lack of opt-ins is an indication our system is working- weeding out the players who will not follow through. And if we don’t have 15 players who are interested enough in war to opt-in and work as a team, I’m inclined to respect that group dynamic enough to let this be a squad of casual players who aren’t going to war often.
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Post by Dr didit on Jul 8, 2019 4:16:01 GMT
The prove you're not a robot makes posting here a pain in the a$$ but you're are never going to grow as a crew if you don't war most active players that join leave because we don't war I have been here over a year and no war and the excuse that it cost to much is a poor excuse don't use a single crystal to finish any troops,to donate just wait if they can't wait then isn't their problem if loosing hurts that bad then you have a problem it is just a game and not waring means not playing the whole game
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Post by shibby on Jul 8, 2019 14:20:36 GMT
There will never be a war because we will never get 15 to answer roll call . Imo it's probably too much of a chore for most to sign up and answer roll call and I can actually see that pov . I'd never pay for crystals to war with either , that's insane but down to the individual if they want to but I do agree with Dr on it being a poor excuse not to war . I don't think it's weeding out anyone either it just shows that half a dozen of us can be bothered to do roll call but it might be the roll call that's preventing a war as like I said first we will never get 15 to answer !
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Post by shadowagent on Jul 10, 2019 7:17:30 GMT
Guys, I clearly stated what makes war not-fun for me and recognized how my own competitive nature impacts how I approach war. That’s called personal responsibility and healthy boundary setting (by opting out of a proposed circumstance which would negatively impact my own enjoyment of the game and interactions with the squad). You don’t have to like, agree with or adopt my position, but I do expect you to back off and respect it. This isn’t up for debate.
At no point did I say you can’t do it (if Iron approves). I said I opt out of participating under the current circumstances under which it is proposed for the reasons above. I have zero interest in being forced into a war I didn’t opt in for until I see better participation and donation rates from fellow squad members; I’m only interested in the version of war that has a cooperative, coordinated team effort. That’s me speaking for only me.
Saying it’s possible that the current system is working as intended is also true- it’s possible, especially given the current standards posted for eligible players because we’ve assumed players want a better than average chance of winning. But if the priorities change for how the squad wants to handle and approach war that’s potentially a different situation. That’s something that is worth discussing, if you want a shift in priorities. However, arguing that my position and boundaries for myself are “wrong” isn’t going to get you anywhere.
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Post by ironfist on Jul 11, 2019 2:31:51 GMT
If folks would like to try doing War without roll call, I'm willing to put that on the table. I feel that the evidence is conclusive that it's not a way to win, but if the priority isn't winning, then that changes the conversation. There is merit to the idea that actively warring (win or lose) may get us more folks who will stick around and be good squadmates. If that helps grow the squad, then I'm all for it. However, a long streak of catastrophic losses does not look good.
That being said, I'd prefer to not be included in non-roll call Wars; or, alternatively, if I'm included, I may or may not participate depending on what else I have going on when there is a War. Based on this thread, I would prefer that Hype, Dr. or Shibby take the lead on scheduling War and selection of participants. Again, if I'm included, I cannot promise that I'll come through, but I will if I'm able. Have at it, guys!
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